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Why this section.

Over time there has been a search for the ideal world, and perhaps what we are attempting is nothing more than a modern day repeat of the same process. There are many philosophers who have written on government of nations and the like, and perhaps one day we can create a larger section containing more of these. For now we have concentrated on two Plato and Sir Francess Bacon.

There is a third source that we would like to show you, but at this time we are unable to find it at the moment, likewise we would have liked to have given you information on Mu the legendary kingdom of the pacific but again have not been able to find very much.

The legend of Atlantis.

There is as many of you will know a legend of an imaginary land called Atlantis, credited by most to Plato, but going back far before this. The stories date to before recoded history and overlap with various religious texts and legends around the world. 

Plato 428bc to 348 bc  founded the academy in ancient Anthans in 387bc, a form of early University, which he ran until the end of his life. New Atlantis is featured in two documented discussions, Timaeus and Critius.

Our documents:- 

Does it exist, and interview with Keith Park on the topic and surrounding facts.
Plato 1 contains the full text of Timaeus 
Plato 2 the full text of Critius, translated into English. 
Plato 3 gives an overview of the story, extracts facts and measurements, and explains who each of the people mentioned were.
Remains  a document sent to us that lists remains found, maps and lists writings on Atlantis

The story of New Atlantis

Later, Sir Francis Bacon 1561-1626 started an essay or book called New Atlantis, which he wrote between 1614 and 1617 but it was published until 1626 around the time of his death. 

He was the attorney general in 1613, Lord keeper of the seal in 1617,and chancellor in 1618. he stayed in office until after 1621. Although in one of the highest seats of power of his time, his motivation in writing New Atlantis which was different to his other works was to present the idea of a world without corruption, which he saw as a major problem in Britain. Well little changes!

Our virtual country, New Atlantis came about unconnected with the work of bacon, and the New was added as in other states around the world to differentiate it from others.

Clearly Bacon knew of the legends of Atlantis, and many feel he was responsible for a lot more writing of is time including some if not all of the works credited to Shakespeare.  If not then the two men had a lot in common. it is also said that he wrote Don Quixote, and it was designed to heal the rift between Spain and Britain. 

Bacons connections with freemasonry of which he was one of the major influences, secrecy, and attempting to correct problems from the inside as opposed to revolution, plus the language and story lines of various works would tend to give weight to many of the claims. There are even suggestions that he was a secret child of Elizabeth 1st, as the result of an affair.

Around 1621, others (Parliament) conspired against him, although the attack was as much against the king as him, and he was charged with taking gifts from suitors in Chancery. This was common practice of the time, but their is no suggestion his judgments were effected and after his removal fro office none of the cases he resided over were retried. there were 28 charges, and he did not defend them, but maintained his intentions were pure. He was found guilty by the high court of parliament, fined 40,000,  imprisoned in the tower at the Kings pleasure and banned from holding public office again. The sentence was never fully implemented by he never held office again. he died on April 5th 1926.

His work New Atlantis , is not finished, or at least does not have a conventional ending. It is not known if it was written and lost or destroyed, or if he intended to leave the reader to complete the story themselves, perhaps creating more thought. 

Our Document Bacon, provides the full text of Sir Frances Bacons New Atlantis.